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“人家老外大部分还是理解和友好的，你们丢的什么人？
一个个看上去正人君子，其实TMD虚伪得不是一点点。
SinoJane,你除了在那里吹自己资格的老牛外，你说明了什么？你有哪条是真凭实据的东西和观点？”
在我看来，天下乌鸦一般黑， 国人和洋人一样， 大部分还是理解和友好的。 洋人的防人之心少一点， 因为耍把戏的人少。
这坛子里多是正人君子， 说话冲的不少，冲得不是一点点， 虚伪的真还不多。
我发言的每条都是事实，实话说了一大堆，唯一没做的就是说谎吹牛。 为了方便大家， 我把我在rc.com上的贴子转贴在此》
我的 post, 第一篇：
I know plenty of Chinese climbers who directly order climbing books from Amazon. Sometimes they ask their friends to get them books from US and Europe to save the costly shipping charge. Actually, I myself frequently help them getting books and DVDs. Moreoever, Chinese climbers live in the US and Europe are doing a great job in writing and translating classic articles for the Chinese climbing community at large. Most of them, with the permission from authors, are posted online free of charge.
Of course, as every society has idiots, morons, mentally retarded, and criminals, there is no exception that we see a few ugly dudes among Chinese climbers.
Interestingly, Mike didn't post anything on any major Chinese climbing message boards. You would think it is easier for him to post in Chinese and ask for advise from his countrymen (and women) . Instead, despite his struggle with Engish, Mr. Mike posted a message here and begged for free lunch.
Even worse, Mr. Mike wasn't even telling the truth in his begging speech. He lied about the situation in China as a climber, probably thought he could get away from his lies, or he could get sympathy from the "rich" climbers in first- and second world countries.
But surprisingly, this dude got exposed both at rc.com and the Chinese message board! Even his local climbers now started wondering who he was. Have you noticed that he posted the photos carefully without revealing his face?
This shall teach Mr. Mike a lesson. This is what a liar and a parasite deserved, not a free lunch, but a free lesson from the climbing community!
Mike,
You should read this:
www.rockbeer.org/bbs/topic.php
我的 post, 第二篇：
thrmaln wrote:
Hey Sinorock,
How did Mike lie about his situation in China? Did I miss something? How do you know he got exposed on the Chinese message board? Did you have someone read it and translate it for you. ...
... but now I am a little more cautious then I was before based on Sinorock's findings should they prove to be true.
Best regards,
Marc Webster
Hi, Marc,
I appreciate your kindness and serious atitude.
As we shall all strive to be kind and compassionate, we shall not be taken adventage of.
I got to know Goldenmike's infamous post from www.rockbeer.org/bbs. Somehow people in China found out he posted some crap here and got really upset. After reading the thread, I decided to write something to clear things up.
I am an ethic Chinese who lives in US and climb in US, Canada, and China. I speak English and Chinese. In addition to the rc.com, I frequent several major Chinese climbing message boards, such as the bbs on Sina.com, rockbeer.org, "doyouhike", and 8264.com.
I reckon I am qualified to be someone who presents facts. Here is why:
1. I am one of the folks that helped Chinese climbers get books from US. Earlier this year, I helped my friends get four copies of Marc Twight's book, "Extreme Alpinism". Some of them I never met.
2. I translated UIAA's helmet standard, safety test articles by Tom Moyer and others, and had them posted on the Chinese climbing web site so Chinese can read them.
3. I was invited by the Editor of the Chinese Outdoor Magazine "Shan Ye" to write an article on "Selection of ice axes".
4. I made contribution to the "Bai-He Climbing Fund", a grass-root effort to establish climbing routes in China.
5. I am a scientist by profession, whose goal is search for truth. I have more than twenty technical papers published in English and have been invited speakers of numerous universities in US, Canada, and China.
Marc, please PM me if you have any more concerns.
Jane
原文在：
www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=98255&postdays=0&postorder=asc&topic_view=&start=60 |
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